Posts by Lady Liberty

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My mother's husband passed away this morning

by Guest with Questions in

just a quick note.

please keep us in your prayers and/or thoughts.. i worry that the blood issue will be brought up.

the doctor's did give him hemoglobin but i guess his blood count was too low.

Lady Liberty

Dear Guest...

(((HUGS))) to you and your family! I am so sorry. You will all be in our thoughts and prayers!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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No Excuse to Shun Families - Almost Lost my Son Today

by Gretchen956 in

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friends

i had such a shock today, its almost bizarre, my son was involved in an accident at work.

he's an ironwoker, which means he works the high steel on skyscrapers and such.

today he was working and tied his safety harness off to the cable as usual, and went to work.. lots of times they have to lean out and rely on that harness to keep them secure while they reach out to do whatever the hell it is they do (best mom's don't always know all), and today his dumbass bosses didn't have the cable attached on one end.

Lady Liberty

OMG!!! (((HUGS)))

I am so happy your son is OK!! How very flucky he is!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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The cutest thing you'll ever see (baby coyote)

by Kudra in

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friends

this is a womans webpage about a coyote that she saved when its parents were both killed.

she had it from 10 days old.

http://dailycoyote.blogspot.com/ .

Lady Liberty

Just precious!! Thank you for sharing! I never knew how beautiful and cute these animals are!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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Re: Blood- Society sent letter saying: DO NOT SHARE THIS INFO. WITH OTHERS

by Lady Liberty in

dear friends,.

our dear friend, skyking started another thread which on the 3rd page he shared something so shocking, that i felt it deserved its own thread!!!

hope that's ok with you skyking!!

Lady Liberty

bttt

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Re: Blood- Society sent letter saying: DO NOT SHARE THIS INFO. WITH OTHERS

by Lady Liberty in

dear friends,.

our dear friend, skyking started another thread which on the 3rd page he shared something so shocking, that i felt it deserved its own thread!!!

hope that's ok with you skyking!!

Lady Liberty

Dear friends,

Our dear friend, Skyking started another thread which on the 3rd page he shared something so shocking, that I felt it deserved its own thread!!! Hope that's ok with you Skyking!!

It is from this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/147908/1.ashx see page 2

Lady Liberty,

No that was not the reason I started to do the research. A brother at my brook study group asked a simple question that changed my life. He asked why couldn’t we auto-transfuse ourselves? He then stated his research found that the reason was blood coagulated thus the Society said the blood had to be poured onto the ground. Then he stated is not the same law on blood broken in order to get fractions? Why is one a DFing offense and the other while breaking the same law not? All of the brothers and sisters at the study group wanted me to answer the question because know one had ever thought of that before.

I went home to my computer to find the answer. I kept seeing on yahoo "Jehovah Witness makes secret deal with Bulgaria," "JW's can have blood transfusions with out any sanction in the country of Bulgaria" etc. I was not going to click on any of that Apostate stuff.

I did my research without clicking on the links but I knew they were there the links felt like mountains yelling at me to click on one. I managed to do my research without clicking on a link I found out he was correct. The same law is broken, one you get DF'd for, the other you don't. You could even be one of the Govern Body and take fractions.

This did not sit well with me HELL this is huge!!! I was stumbled. All the time thinking about my daughter. Was it true JW's could take a transfusion without any sanctions in Bulgaria kept flooding my mind. All consuming my thoughts. Finally after much struggle with me inner most demons, I clicked on a link. I could not believe what I saw it was true. How could this be true, in less than a weeks time I had found out that auto-transfusions broke no more of the blood laws than taking fractions. The Society made a secret deal with Bulgaria.

This deal was done in the European Supreme Court, so I went to the year 1997, the month of the court date and printed off the details. I did not go to the book study group after that for over a month. I was afraid someone would ask me if I had the answer then I would have to tell them. I was mentally torn up.

To go back a few years my wife wanted to give our baby girl the transfusion. She told me if the State decides not to give the transfusion then she was going to sign papers allowing it. I kept this from the brothers. I did not want others to find out that my wife was not faithful. It almost caused a divorce in our marriage. She was smaller in my eyes. My wife the pioneer was willing to give up her eternal life for what so our daughter could live a few years forgetting life without end Jehovah was going to give us. I started to slowly drift away from the once intense love I had for her a cloud of disdain was replacing it. I know my wife failed the test of loyalty I would be without her in paradise.

I contacted my brother that lived in a near by town. I made him swear not tell his fellow Elders. He went ballistic refused to look at my apostate information. He contacted his body and the witch-hunt ensued. They contacted the Elders here. They formed an investigative committee. I had luck on my side. There was a brother from bethel here helping the local congregation. I showed him the information I had did not come from an apostate site but form the European Supreme Court> I also shared with him the fact that blood coagulates before the fractions are taken. He some how stopped the witch hunt.

Further down he posted this:

A member of AJWRB has my information and sends it to people that contact her wanting to have facts from the bible.

When I did this research there was no information I could find on the Internet that used the bible to disprove the JW's. I found lots of information stating inconsistencies and the history of blood. Also lots of information from the medical community. I was very surprised to find out the Jw's were wrong scripturally. When I found out an older brother from the coast sent the Society a copy of the information. This brother claims to be of the Anointed and is used at the Circuit Level and gives major talks at the Assemblies. I was to scared to send it myself to the Society. The reply to the letter was "DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION TO OTHERS"

At this point I knew the Governing Body knew the truth. Which made them murderers.

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I was told: The bible condemn Blood transfusions Period!!!

by skyking in

this is what i was told by a c.o.

eight years ago.

that was before we went over bible information that i had compiled.

Lady Liberty

The reply to the letter was "DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION TO OTHERS"

At this point I knew the Governing Body knew the truth. Which made them murderers.

Dear Skyking,

OMG!!!! If I didn't know better I wouldn't believe it!! But I DO!!!! HOLYCOW!!!! Thank you so much for filling us in on the whole story!! You should write a book!! UNFREAKING BELIEVABLE!!! (((HUGS)) to you as you have obviously been through the wringer!!

All I can say is WOW!!!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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I may lose my wife because of Disfellowshipping

by freedomfighter in

have only been out of the organisation for 2 months and the wounds still run deep.

particularly hard is the fact that my wife and 8 yr old son are now divided in our beliefs.

we cannot go out as a family with our old friends like we use to.

Lady Liberty

Dear FreedomFighter,

(((HUGS)))!! Welcome to the forum!! We are happy to have you here!! If you love your wife and your child, and you can handle going back in to either get them out or fade..I certainly would!! There have been many who remain in because of they feel they will lose their families. It is hard to judge someone in your shoes unless we have walked in them. You will not have me calling you a hypocrite, that is for sure! Most here will no doubt agree. A few..may not understand..but then again...it isn't their family that they are losing either.

Hopie is a poster here that just wrote a book on getting her daughter out of the organization. She and her husband had left in 1983, and for 10 years her daughter shunned them. In 1993, she decided to go back in to try and rescue her daughter. Which she was sucessful at doing. So for her it was well worth the effort, and for you it may be worth it too.

Hang in there!! We are here to support you no matter what you decide! There are many here on this forum that are still in physically..and stay in for their families..but have checked out mentally. Anyhow..please keep us posted as to what you decide.

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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I was told: The bible condemn Blood transfusions Period!!!

by skyking in

this is what i was told by a c.o.

eight years ago.

that was before we went over bible information that i had compiled.

Lady Liberty

Dear SkyKing,

You have a PM from me....

Thank you for posting that information..I thought it was EXCELLENT!! There were a couple of scriptures I never knew existed!! SO THANK YOU!!!!!! I printed it off to share with my ex JW family and friends.

Was it after almost losing your daughter that you did indepth research and confronted the C.O.??

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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587/607 Question...

by deaconbluez in

if the exile wasn't to be 70 years, how is jeremiah 29:10 explained by pro-587 folks?.

10 "for this is what jehovah has said, in accord with the fulfilling of seventy years at babylon i shall turn my attention to you people, and i will establish toward you my good word in bringing you back to this place.. .

also, if it truly was a 70-year period of servitude, and not exile, when was this 70 years served by other nations?.

Lady Liberty

Dear 1914.....

WELCOME tot he forum! We are happy to have you here!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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Flipper is in heaven/history channell is doing a show on Bigfoot

by dawg in

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friends

are you watching this flipper?

.

Lady Liberty

Darn it!! I missed it again?? Here is the episode link.. http://www.history.com/shows.do?episodeId=251258&action=detail

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty